Model 2 and 3 ... Worth It?

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Model 2 and 3 ... Worth It?

Post by FrizzleFried » Wed Apr 09, 2025 11:41 pm

Model 2 and 3 games tend to be more driving and shooting oriented... but there ARE a few that aren't. Is it worth bothering with the Model 2 and 3 emulators to play those few games? I assume it would be as easy to get them going as everything else... just call the proper emulator to play the proper rom in the proper folder. :)
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Re: System 2 and 3 ... Worth It?

Post by dee2eR » Thu Apr 10, 2025 1:02 am

I'm assuming you mean Model 2 and 3? Sorry if I'm wrong there. They more or less work like MAME, right rom in the romfolder, launcher script etc. Both are gun & driving game heavy but have some joystick games too. Some of the Model (1,2,3) game series were continued on Naomi/Naomi 2... In ARpiCADE_5 both are running in 240p (but the originals were medium res).

Model 2 is using Box86 and WINE, it's occasionally a bit buggy but playable. The next update will have more games inputs pre-configured and games set to English by default. There's roughly twice as many games on Model 2 than Model 3.

Model 3 emulator performance varies from game to game, also the change to Wayland from X11 negetivly effected Model 3 performance (will probably find a fix eventully) - not everything is running great in it but it is playable.

Games you may want on Model 2: Virtua Fighter 2, Zero Gunner, Virtual On, Virtua Striker, Sonic the Fighters, Dead or Alive, Dynamite Cop, Fighting Vipers, Last Bronx , Pilot Kids

On Model 3: Virtua Fighter 3, VF3 Team Battle, Fighting Vipers 2, Virtua Striker 2, Spike Out

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Re: Model 2 and 3 ... Worth It?

Post by FrizzleFried » Thu Apr 10, 2025 1:21 pm

My bad... yes, I meant Model 2 and 3... fixed.
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Re: Model 2 and 3 ... Worth It?

Post by FrizzleFried » Thu Apr 10, 2025 8:28 pm

Model 3 seem to work (many of them)... but seem very slow. Oddly, the music seems fine but yeah, they seem to run bout 1/2 speed.

Model 2? I can't get any of them to work. They load a little... a bot shows up at the left... once I got a half screen with an AM2 on it... but then nothing...

Will keep fussing with them. I read that Pi5 SHOULD run most Model 3 fine...
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Re: Model 2 and 3 ... Worth It?

Post by dee2eR » Fri Apr 11, 2025 12:00 am

yeah, model 3 *should* be fine on Pi5 - some games run well (enough) on Pi4. However the swap from X11 to Wayland killed the performance in this emulator, some games arn't so bad but there's a software issue holding us back currently.

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Re: Model 2 and 3 ... Worth It?

Post by dee2eR » Fri Apr 11, 2025 4:02 am

FrizzleFried wrote:
Thu Apr 10, 2025 8:28 pm
Model 2? I can't get any of them to work. They load a little... a bot shows up at the left... once I got a half screen with an AM2 on it... but then nothing...

Will keep fussing with them. I read that Pi5 SHOULD run most Model 3 fine...
it's possible the update freezing for you has caused some sort of issue with WINE. Just speculation as Model 2 is running in WINE using Box86 (as its a Windows only closed source binary).

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Re: Model 2 and 3 ... Worth It?

Post by FrizzleFried » Sun Apr 13, 2025 3:22 pm

Something musta broke with model 2. Depending on the rom, I get either what appears like a window ...taking about 1/3ish of the screen at the left...all black but with text I can't read. Top bar of window does say M2 Emulator I believe...hard to read. Once in a while I can find a rom that makes a window that takes up as much space as before but the Model 2 Emulator logo appears in the window... but nothing else. Both just sit there at that point.

It's not a big deal as there aren't all that many desirable standard stick games for the system...

Here is the screen the update leaves me at... was I supposed to wait longer than I did before giving up?
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The little window seems to have two buttons to choose... top and bottom. You can move a "selection box" up and down but it appears that's about it. I couldn't "select" one or the other it seemed.
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Re: Model 2 and 3 ... Worth It?

Post by dee2eR » Mon Apr 14, 2025 8:01 am

That's the bit where the instructions are to press 'enter' then wait a sec then 'alt+f4', but if enter didn't work I didn't write anything to handle that... Past that is really just a reboot to make sure everything is written to the SD card but the reboot takes a minute or two and can look like it's hanging.

The window you can see there is a Microsoft installer. The checkbox should be unchecked (it's for 64bit parts we don't want). The main button just says 'install'. Not sure why 'enter' didn't work to press the button.

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